Monday: Around the political blogosphere

Paul Krugman in today's New York Times considers what it means for the Republican Party to be taken over the Beck, Limbaugh, Palin, teabaggers. It is clear that this faction has no interest in governing. We see the "ideas" of the core of that faction here on Prime Buzz.

Krugman ends his column with the following:

The point is that the takeover of the Republican Party by the irrational right is no laughing matter. Something unprecedented is happening here — and it’s very bad for America.

A great article describing the Saturday night massacre orchestrated by Nancy Pelosi.

Pelosi's red body condom.

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like something, it's good chance it's good for America. He's a standardized Constitution hating lib, like old.

There ya go wingnuts. Cardiac Arrest/Stroke time.

Go collect your government health care.

Our good friend Woody has just shown us what the irrational right in this country looks like.

Analysis is not needed for the irrational right.

I want to see what he writes under drug-induced mind alterations. I don't know if I can stop laughing today...

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is coming from, to the insane, rational does seem irrational. Just look at law, forget lincoln, fdr, jfk, it's the one year o. They do it to themselves.

Our good friend Woody writes:

[Krugman]'s a standardized Constitution hating lib, like old.

It struck me this was kind of language we get from the irrational right that Krugman says has taken over the Republican Party.

Woody does not disappoint us in his reply.

You have to see where old is coming from, to the insane, rational does seem irrational.

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In Woody's world, Krugman is a "standard Constitution hating lib." In that world, there is no need for examples of how Krugman "hates" the Constitution. It is self-evident.

In the world I live in such a label requires examples and analysis. However, facts, as we all know, have a distinct liberal, so to a conservative, of course it is insane to provide them.

Because Conservatives KNOW the truth, labels like "standard Constitution hating lib" are enough. Of course, Woody is absolutely right. It is insane to expect him to explain such a label, so I will quit trying.

Why is Glenn Beck a racist?

I want examples and professional analysis.

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This is where you fit a square peg into a round hole. Amuse me.

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Ten conservative commenters on Prime Buzz were given a test in which they were given blocks of certain shapes and asked to fit the blocks into equivalent holes in a panel. Five of the commenters successfully fit the blocks through the hole. From this the scientists conducting the test concluded that half of the conservatives were really stupid and the other half were extremely strong.

Jeetz, unlike you, I do have evidence. Here it is.

For those who don't want to see the video:

The group was discussing the recent Gates controversy, and Beck exclaimed that Obama has "over and over again" exposed himself as "a guy who has a deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture. I don't know what it is..."

When Fox's Brian Kilmeadeon pointed out that many people in Obama's administration are white, so "you can't say he doesn't like white people," Beck pressed on. "I'm not saying he doesn't like white people, I'm saying he has a problem," Beck said. "This guy is, I believe, a racist."

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Again, Jeetz, what evidence is there that Obama has a deep-seated hatred for white people or white culture? (I sure would like to know what "white culture" is.)

Obama's two closest advisor are white (and Jewish. By the way, are Jews white or not, Jeetz?).

Big John, that was funny.
Drum;
Once again, in your accusation of racism on Glenn Beck's part, described yourself as a racist.

Someone who calls the KKK racist, is then a racist???

What are your credentials for calling Beck a racist? Who else called Beck a racist besides you? What are the credentials of experts who agree with you?

I'm a sponge for learning more about profiling a racist.

Please include this in your answer.

You quoted a FOX news reporter. Is that an accredited source now?

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Of course, Jeetz, you are not a sponge for learning. If you were you would be disgusted by the historical inaccuracies in Beck's latest book.

However, let's get back to Beck's anslysis of Obama. According to Beck, Obama, the first President of color, has a deep-seated hatred of white people and "white culture."

That is racist. There is absolutely nothing Obama has done to support that claim. Notice the plural, Jeetz. All white people according to Beck.

Go ahead, my good Beck-apologist, and defend Beck's observation.

You have yet to demonstrate an ability to carry on a discussion citing facts. Will this be the exception?

I thought this was a fairly interesting analysis of state job losses worth mentioning:

MPNblog.com: Dips in state employment show signs of steady improvement

Nice square peg move, Old Drum. I'm not the one who called Beck a racist.

You still haven't answered my questions:

1. You used FOX as a source. Are they an accredited source now, yes or no?

2. What other experts can you cite who agree with you? Names please and sources for that information?

3. What are your credentials for profiling Beck as a racist?

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Our good "I will report you" friend Jeetz cannot think for himself.

Jeetz, I'm not using Fox as a source. I'm using the video to reveal what Beck actually said. I'm not surprised that you are unable to understand the difference.

I'm surprised at this comment by you.

2. What other experts can you cite who agree with you? Names please and sources for that information?

It is fascinating to know that you require "experts" to confirm what you believe. I will remember this.

I note that you do not defend Beck's assertion that Obama, the first president of color, has a deep-seated hatred of white people and "white culture." It is indefensible, isn't it?

By the way, what is "white culture"?

3. What are your credentials for profiling Beck as a racist?

Simple. I think. I know of no evidence to support Beck's claim. And, I'm somewhat appalled that someone like Beck seems to think there is an identifiable "white culture" is this country.

Apparently, among your circle of friends, you require experts to tell you what to think. Would you share with us Jeetz the experts you rely on to know what to think? This leads to an intersting problem. What experts do you rely on to determine what experts you believe? Of course, this raises the questions what experts certified the experts you use to confirm what you believe? I'm sure you will share your advice on experts with us.

Explain the quotes below by you, Old Drum.

And again, who can confirm what you claim about Glenn Beck being a racist? FOX? NBC? CNN? ABC? Daily Kos? The great Josh Marshall? Keith Olberman? Rachel Maddow? Crooksandliars.com?

Who agrees with you? Anyone?

1. In the world I live in such a label requires examples and analysis.

Don't experts provide examples and analysis?

2. Apparently, among your circle of friends, you require experts to tell you what to think. Would you share with us Jeetz the experts you rely on to know what to think? This leads to an intersting problem. What experts do you rely on to determine what experts you believe? Of course, this raises the questions what experts certified the experts you use to confirm what you believe? I'm sure you will share your advice on experts with us.

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his entertainment value. Your a classic, maybe Beck should have been more specific, like maybe specifying his comment about his grandmother. He has communists on his staff also, what does that say about him old. From his books the o does have a problem with white people, read it for yourself.

Rush's producer on his show is a black man, didn't you call him a racist? Yes this is being pointed out again like most of your same old posts falling under the repeat often, stupid question, or attack source and deny reality. Yes you have a lying bias, but becoming even more entertaining.

Unless you can provide names, you are the only one in America who believes Glenn Beck is a racist.

And you used FOX as your only source. (Now that's funny!)

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Jeetz, Beck uttered his racist comments on Obama on Fox. Are you saying that clip is not what Beck said?

You have been kidding us, haven't you? I can't believe someone who doesn't understand citing the program Beck made his racist comment is using Fox as a "source" on racism.

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Jeetz, what experts tell you I have to provide names? What experts tell you how many names I have to provide? If you can't name any credible names, you clearly are not serious.

You have an obsession with calling Beck a racist, Old Drum. Now I know why you hate Phillip Berg so much.

You've become Berg. Pop a binnie. Sleep well. (smile)

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CITY BALL is wonderful. Watched it tonight. Outstanding documentary.

Drum,
Why don't you respond to my posts when I call you out?
You know you are wrong and can't argue my point.
How can you call Beck a racist when you do the exact same thing to the nth degree?
You are a hypocrite, plain and simple.
Deny it. You know you are wrong.

I won't go so far as to try and defend what Beck said about Obama in that clip because it's pretty obvious Beck got ahead of himself and didn't try and define his argument better. (Maybe his ADHD meds hadn't kicked in yet.)

That said, making a statement that Obama doesn't like white people doesn't make aomeone a racist. I didn't see any broad-sweeping statements about one race being superior to another. Rascism means you think one group of people are superior to another based on their skin color or ethnicity.

However...

I don't think Obama likes America. I don't think he appreciates the history of this nation. I don't think he feels pride when he hears the Star Spangled Banner. I don't think he gives a damn about soldiers that die in the line of duty. In short, I think Obama is the most anti-American president in the history of our nation.

I think being raised by hippies and educated in foreign countries have disassociated any cultural ties he may have to America, which is why he thinks he is within his rights to 'fundamentally' change America. It's why he thinks America is arrogant. It's why he thinks we're the bad guys and need to apologize.

So I don't think Obama hates white people per say. I think he is prejudiced against patriotic American culture regardless of the skin color of the people who promote it.

Teikiatsu, I know this will be hard, but think about what you just wrote:

I don't think he feels pride when he hears the Star Spangled Banner. I don't think he gives a damn about soldiers that die in the line of duty. In short, I think Obama is the most anti-American president in the history of our nation.

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Obama's life story is only possible in the United States and he has remarked on this many times.

Where, but the United States, could a child, whose father was not a citizen of the country, raised by a single mother and her parents, go to one of the most prestigious law schools, become the editor of the law review at that institution, and eventually become the leader of that country? Only in the United States. And, my good friend, I have lived in two other countries for extended periods of time and Obama's life story would be impossible in those countries. I'm referring to Germany and France.

Unlike you apparently, Obama understands the unique opportunities available to all Americans and is extremely grateful for those opportunities he had available.

That you don't understand this about America and how Obama celebrates what was available to him reveals your profound ignorance about Obama and more importantly, the best aspects of our country.

I want to say your ignorance in these matters is appalling, but no, it is disheartening that you have no sense that Obama's life story is so fundamentally American and Obama has made this point time and time again.

I'm appalled that Old Drum doesn't recognize Beck's upbringing.

Old Drum's exclusion of equally honoring Beck can only be considered, in the vernacular of political correctness, "calculated ignorance."

Or as I, a self-professed redneck extraordinaire, prefer -- the work of a trained liar.

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“Obama's life story is so fundamentally American and Obama has made this point time and time again.”

And again, and again, and again. Heck, just try to find a speech where he hasn’t worked in a reference to himself and his “fundamentally American” life story. He even found a way to make a two-and-a-half minute speech about the fall of the Berlin Wall about himself:

“Few would have foreseen … that a united Germany would be led by a woman from Brandenburg or that their American ally would be led by a man of African descent. But human destiny is what human beings make of it.”

No references to Reagan or Thatcher, though. Just himself.