Your election prediction thread

Governor Nixon

Graves

Boyda

Moore (I am prediciting a bigger win than in 2006)

Cleaver

Light rail - no

JoCo judges - no

Triangle Tax - yes

very curious to see how the Toplikar/Hayden, the Kiegerl/Snavely, Segale/Allen and the Azeltine/Lindstrom races go - all of these could affect Jo. Co. citizens plus some more. Wednesday morning will be interesting and I am sure the 4 years ahead will be interesting - many money problems and I still wake up in the middle of the night with my concerns of the pollution problems and resulting affects to the health of area citizens because of the proposed Gardner intermodal (I know you get tired of hearing about this from me but, people, it is going to be a killer for $8 to $14 an hour jobs) - in my opinion it is not a winner for us.

Obama Biden

MO:
Nixon

Graves

KS:
Moore

Roberts

Segale

Lindstrom

Sign Thief

Judegs No
Triangle Yes

to the Judegs being No, Judges No as well.

Missouri for Pres.: McCain due to the deplorable, but demonstrable Bradley effect (or Wheat effect).

MO 6th: Graves
MO Lt. Governor: Kinder
MO Treasurer: Lager

MO Governor: Nixon
MO SOS: Carnahan
MO AG: Koster

As an addendum: I think Moore will be upset. There are lots of questions about his campaign finances. I also think Jenkins has a fighting chance against Boyda. I am just not sure how either will turn out.

Much more ballsy making predictions back in July like I did. Doesn't take a lot of balls to make a prediction now.

It's my opinion, and like a sphincter, everyone has one.

that you were 100% wrong.

ROFLMAO

I was unaware of who and what an Alinsky was until this morning, but obviously liberals are well-trained in the movement.

My only movement today? ...a BM.

100% sounds great, in fact, perfect.

...ya ol' Hag. (smile)

My predictions:

Prez: Obama wins Missouri by two points, wins 55 percent of the national popular vote.
Gov: Nixon
MO. Lt. Gov: Page
MO. Treasurer: Zweifel
AG: Koster

Graves wins easily.
Boyda wins re-election.
Moore wipes the floor with ol' what's-his-name.
Cleaver wins, but that's a given.

Prop A wins
Prop B wins
Light rail loses.

Nationally:

Democrats pick up 20 seats in the House, 5 seats in the Senate.

An aside: It's not "balls" to make bold predictions in July ... before the primaries in many cases ... it's profound stupidity. That's about all we can expect out of IPF.

Barak Obama will be the next President United States.

The right wing will…

1. Declare they actually won the election because Barak Obama did not reach 370 Electoral College votes.

2. Deny they ever said that it is unpatriotic not to support everything a wartime president does and proceed to attack Barak Obama’s policies.

3. Deny they ever said there's a war in Iraq. That war was over when Bush declared “Mission Accomplished”. This is a police action, and we've always said it was a police action.

4. Discover the 10 trillion dollar national debt. Blame it on Bill Clinton. Propose tax cuts to pay down the national debt.

5. Assert that the Democratic Party believes the average citizen is stupid.

Roy Blunt gets kicked out of any leadership role (Minority Leader, Whip, etc.) in the GOP House Minority.

Liberals will become absolutely demoralized when they find out that big business can push the Democrats around, not the opposite.

Actually, that's not a prediction. The Democrats know it, they just haven't told their base.

Are brilliant and certain to come true. LOL

Prez: McCain carried MO
Mo Gov: Nixon
Lt Gov: Kinder
SecState: Carnahan
AG: Gibbons
Treas: Lager
6th Cong: Graves
48th Rep: Kraus

My prediction.

Big Biz Still For GOPWhy can't corporate America end its perverse love affair with Republican politicians?
By Daniel GrossPosted Tuesday, Oct. 28, 2008, at 5:49 PM ET

Three articles from the Wall Street Journal show the strange myopia of businesses and business groups when it comes to politics. One article detailed how big retailers (Home Depot, Wal-Mart, Lowe's, Target) are warning employees about the possibility that a Democratic sweep could give unions the upper hand (translation: Vote Republican!). A second describes how the U.S. Chamber of Commerce is mounting a huge $35 million campaign—twice the amount it spent in 2006 congressional races—to support "almost exclusively Republicans in contested Senate races." And Federal Express CEO Fred Smith gave an interview to the editorial page in which he endorsed Sen. John McCain: "Because I agree with him on trade, taxes, energy and health care."
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Let's take each in turn. Big retailers such as Home Depot, Wal-Mart, and Target, the Journal reports, are freaked out that Obama and a Democratic Congress would pass the Employee Free Choice Act, "which would do away with secret balloting and allow unions to form if a majority of employees sign cards favoring unionization." Now, don't get me wrong. EFCA may be a disaster for retailers. But of all the woes facing companies—the credit crunch, crappy growth, a disastrous job market, a lost decade in the stock market—unions are the least of their problems. So far this year, legions of retailers have gone bankrupt—Steve & Barry's, Linens'n'Things, the Ponderosa and Bonanza restaurant chains—victims of excessively optimistic projections, poor expansion choices, mismanagement, and horrific capital structures. Unions had nothing to do with their failure.

Retailers that survive face a bigger challenge. We've just concluded an economic expansion in which median incomes failed to rise. The people who shop at Wal-Mart, Home Depot, and Target are basically making the same amount of money they were in 1999. There are many reasons why wages failed to rise in this expansion, among them: globalization, outsourcing, and a decline in the educational attainment of workers. But unions aren't one of them. What's more, long-term stock charts put the lie to the binary concept—Republican, anti-big-labor good; Democrat, pro-big-labor bad. Check out these charts of Home Depot (up about fivefold in the Clinton years, down about 60 percent in the Bush years), or Wal-Mart (boom in the Clinton years and drift in the Bush years, or Target (ditto).

Now, with consumer confidence at a record low, credit difficult to come by, and demand shrinking, retailers are facing a bleak outlook. And they're worried about the prospect of greater unionization at some point in the future?
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The U.S. Chamber of Commerce seems to be chiefly guilty of bad timing. While the chamber technically doesn't endorse political candidates, on Oct. 23, it announced a big field operation to educate voters in battleground states. The Journal has also reported that it is pouring millions of dollars into Senate races to buck up Republicans such as Mitch McConnell, Susan Collins, John Sununu, and Norm Coleman, along with token Democrat Mary Landrieu of Louisiana. More Democrats, the chamber fears, would mean "policies favoring increased unionization, higher taxes, more restrictions on trade and more regulation on the financial-services and housing sectors." Once again, the past 16 years provide a great controlled experiment: eight years of a Democratic regime that was comparatively pro-labor, higher tax, pro-regulation, and anti-free trade, followed by eight years of a Republican regime that was comparatively anti-labor, decidedly low tax and anti-regulation, and pro-free trade. Pop quiz: For the members of the Chamber of Commerce, and for corporate America at large, which eight years were better? (And as a matter of pure political strategy: Is it wise for the chamber to spend millions against a Democratic Party that is likely to control Congress and the White House?)
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In 2004, Daniel Gross compared George Bush's Wal-Mart with John Kerry's Costco. Liza Featherstone explained why Wal-Mart doesn't adopt Costco's policies. Matt Alsdorf clarified what groups of employees are able to unionize. Gross responded to the claim that FEMA could learn a lot from Wal-Mart's and Federal Express' relief efforts after Katrina.

Federal Express CEO Fred Smith couched his binary political take more as a matter of personal preference and less as a question of what would be good for the company he runs. (He endorses McCain "because I agree with him on trade, taxes, energy, and health care," and doesn't endorse Obama because "I just disagree with him on trade and taxes and energy and health care.") Fair enough. But once again, one wonders what conclusions Smith might draw from the past 16 years of running Federal Express. From 1993-2000, the president was a guy he disagreed with on trade, taxes, energy and health care in office, and from 2001-08 the president was a guy he agreed with on trade, taxes, energy and health care. How did that work out for a Federal Express shareholder? Check out this long-term chart of Federal Express and see for yourself.

So, why do some members of the business class cling so bitterly to the notion that Democrats and unions inevitably spell doom while Republicans and the absence of unions always spell nirvana? It could be, as colleague Liza Featherstone suggests in the about-to-be-posted "Money Talks" podcast, that CEOs are really most worried about their personal income taxes, rather than the macroeconomic climate. Could be. But I suspect the real reason is theology. Just as religion frequently involves simplistic good/evil comparisons, members of the church of free enterprise frequently hew to the first (thou shalt not unionize) and second (thou shalt not bow down before Democrats) commandments.

In the past 16 years, a bunch of really big-picture economic developments have influenced the trajectory of the nation's (and the globe's) economy. These include, but are not limited, to: the Internet, free-trade agreements, the emergence of China and India, the fluctuating price of oil and commodities, and climate change. But the people we've elected to serve in Congress and in the White House haven't had much of an impact on any of those trends. In so many areas—homeownership, the stock market, investor participation rates—the past eight years have been something of a lost decade. We can't blame President Bush and former Republican Rep. Tom DeLay for all of this. But it's pretty clear that the policies promoted by a Republican president and a Republican-controlled Congress didn't do a lot to stimulate broad-based growth. At the very least, recent economic history should cause people to re-examine some of their assumptions about the relation between politics and the private sector. I'm not saying it doesn't matter who sits in the White House or who controls Congress. But it doesn't matter nearly as much as many businesspeople think it does.

No one is going to read something that long. And especially someone who has already voted!

Buy hey, knock yourself out. (smile)

...And predict Missouri goes Obama
+.04% to +.08%

Come gather 'round people
Wherever you roam
And admit that the waters
Around you have grown
And accept it that soon
You'll be drenched to the bone
If your time to you
Is worth savin'
Then you better start swimmin'
Or you'll sink like a stone
For the times they are a-changin'.

Come writers and critics
Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won't come again
And don't speak too soon
For the wheel's still in spin
And there's no tellin' who
That it's namin'
For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin'.

Come senators, congressmen
Please heed the call
Don't stand in the doorway
Don't block up the hall
For he that gets hurt
Will be he who has stalled
There's a battle outside
And it is ragin'
It'll soon shake your windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'.

Come mothers and fathers
Throughout the land
And don't criticize
What you can't understand
Your sons and your daughters
Are beyond your command
Your old road is
Rapidly agin'
Please get out of the new one
If you can't lend your hand
For the times they are a-changin'.

The line it is drawn
The curse it is cast
The slow one now
Will later be fast
As the present now
Will later be past
The order is
Rapidly fadin'
And the first one now
Will later be last
For the times they are a-changin'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ_XwLSN45I

Oh, where have you been, my blue-eyed son?
Oh, where have you been, my darling young one?
I've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains,
I've walked and I've crawled on six crooked highways,
I've stepped in the middle of seven sad forests,
I've been out in front of a dozen dead oceans,
I've been ten thousand miles in the mouth of a graveyard,
And it's a hard, and it's a hard, it's a hard, and it's a hard,
And it's a hard rain's a-gonna fall.

Oh, what did you see, my blue-eyed son?
Oh, what did you see, my darling young one?
I saw a newborn baby with wild wolves all around it
I saw a highway of diamonds with nobody on it,
I saw a black branch with blood that kept drippin',
I saw a room full of men with their hammers a-bleedin',
I saw a white ladder all covered with water,
I saw ten thousand talkers whose tongues were all broken,
I saw guns and sharp swords in the hands of young children,
And it's a hard, and it's a hard, it's a hard, it's a hard,
And it's a hard rain's a-gonna fall.

And what did you hear, my blue-eyed son?
And what did you hear, my darling young one?
I heard the sound of a thunder, it roared out a warnin',
Heard the roar of a wave that could drown the whole world,
Heard one hundred drummers whose hands were a-blazin',
Heard ten thousand whisperin' and nobody listenin',
Heard one person starve, I heard many people laughin',
Heard the song of a poet who died in the gutter,
Heard the sound of a clown who cried in the alley,
And it's a hard, and it's a hard, it's a hard, it's a hard,
And it's a hard rain's a-gonna fall.

Oh, who did you meet, my blue-eyed son?
Who did you meet, my darling young one?
I met a young child beside a dead pony,
I met a white man who walked a black dog,
I met a young woman whose body was burning,
I met a young girl, she gave me a rainbow,
I met one man who was wounded in love,
I met another man who was wounded with hatred,
And it's a hard, it's a hard, it's a hard, it's a hard,
It's a hard rain's a-gonna fall.

Oh, what'll you do now, my blue-eyed son?
And, what'll you do now, my darling young one?
I'm a-goin' back out 'fore the rain starts a-fallin',
I'll walk to the depths of the deepest dark forest,
Where the people are many and their hands are all empty,
Where the pellets of poison are flooding their waters,
Where the home in the valley meets the damp dirty prison,
Where the executioner's face is always well hidden,
Where hunger is ugly, where souls are forgotten,
Where black is the color, where none is the number,
And I'll tell it and speak it and think it and breathe it,
And reflect it from the mountain so all souls can see it,
Then I'll stand on the ocean until I start sinkin',
But I'll know my song well before I start singin',
And it's a hard, it's a hard, it's a hard, it's a hard,
It's a hard rain's a-gonna fall.

Answer: two old hags.

Question: who knows nothing about music?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKmxEJLcsIQ

How does it feel when your vote doesn't matter in Kansas? (smile)

but wouldn't you like to know how you may make more money and live better over the next couple of years ? Since you have voted you don't care .

But I know I was surprised to read this information coming from the Wall Street Journal - I mean, who would have thought that contrary to the non stop attempts from the Republicans to convince us that the US is hellbound for poor business environments ... that in reality ...
companies have done better under Democrats.

Gosh, maybe that will help allow some people to rethink their feelings about how to vote.

It takes about a minute to read.

I am impressed. You are the first Obama supporter to not imply that Obama's farts come out as rose buds. I have commented before that McCain has his warts, but I can live with them, and I know them. It is refreshing that at least one Obama supporter realizes that he doesn't walk on water.
Well done.

Jeetz, my good politically-challenged friend, this song is about an America that belongs to all of us: real and unreal Americans, you and me!

And, tomorrow night we will all sing it with the joy of the song's writer.

Chorus:
This land is your land, this land is my land
From California, to the New York Island
From the redwood forest, to the gulf stream waters
This land was made for you and me

As I was walking a ribbon of highway
I saw above me an endless skyway
I saw below me a golden valley
This land was made for you and me

Chorus

I've roamed and rambled and I've followed my footsteps
To the sparkling sands of her diamond deserts
And all around me a voice was sounding
This land was made for you and me

Chorus

The sun comes shining as I was strolling
The wheat fields waving and the dust clouds rolling
The fog was lifting a voice come chanting
This land was made for you and me

Chorus

As I was walkin' - I saw a sign there
And that sign said - no tress passin'
But on the other side .... it didn't say nothin!
Now that side was made for you and me!

Chorus

In the squares of the city - In the shadow of the steeple
Near the relief office - I see my people
And some are grumblin' and some are wonderin'
If this land's still made for you and me.

Chorus (2x)

Not a single one of you sourced your music. It's all copyrighted, folks.

I source every single song because of that.

Dumb-de-dumb dumb. -- you're not above the law even though Obama thinks he is.

Masters Of War

Come you masters of war
You that build all the guns
You that build the death planes
You that build the big bombs
You that hide behind walls
You that hide behind desks
I just want you to know
I can see through your masks

You that never done nothin'
But build to destroy
You play with my world
Like it's your little toy
You put a gun in my hand
And you hide from my eyes
And you turn and run farther
When the fast bullets fly

Like Judas of old
You lie and deceive
A world war can be won
You want me to believe
But I see through your eyes
And I see through your brain
Like I see through the water
That runs down my drain

You fasten the triggers
For the others to fire
Then you set back and watch
When the death count gets higher
You hide in your mansion
As young people's blood
Flows out of their bodies
And is buried in the mud

You've thrown the worst fear
That can ever be hurled
Fear to bring children
Into the world
For threatening my baby
Unborn and unnamed
You ain't worth the blood
That runs in your veins

How much do I know
To talk out of turn
You might say that I'm young
You might say I'm unlearned
But there's one thing I know
Though I'm younger than you
Even Jesus would never
Forgive what you do

Let me ask you one question
Is your money that good
Will it buy you forgiveness
Do you think that it could
I think you will find
When your death takes its toll
All the money you made
Will never buy back your soul

And I hope that you die
And your death'll come soon
I will follow your casket
In the pale afternoon
And I'll watch while you're lowered
Down to your deathbed
And I'll stand o'er your grave
'Til I'm sure that you're dead

Jeetz wants to know who wrote the lyrics I posted. Jeetz, they were written by Bob Dylan. And Dylan's gonna come over and smack you for not knowing that.

But only in the subject area.

Most music aficionados will tell you that Dylan was way over-rated.

But you still have to source copyrighted work. Obviously your lack of sources makes you over-rated, too. ...teach. (smile)

America will finally get off it's ass and become a leader in alternative energy sources (which come free from the sun by the way, Yes, wind comes from the sun, and by the way, so did Oil, it just took millions of years of solar energy input to create it; it's our global energy savings account and we are blowing it like a republican trust fund coke addict). All small energy grids across the US will be connected creating a strong and reduntant grid, making rolling blackouts a thing of the past and starting a steady reduction in energy costs. Landowners in the midwest will be rewarded for their stewardship of land; Kansas being the number one state in the union for potential wind energy generation, or 'the Saudia Arabia of wind potential'. A concept called Ephemeralization will arise into mainstream consciousness and will usher in a wave of prosperity and a heightened standard of living for everyone. (smile)

OR

We continue on the same recent trends of an increasingly disparate power structure. Civil liberties continue to erode. Food and Drug safety is abolished and a purely market force is propagated. The middle class dissappears into extreme poverty and ill health. Society is duped into total compliance by a fabricated crisis. Internet anonymity is eradicated and voices like yours and mine are silenced by force. Behavioral drugs to keep us in compliance are created and our consumption of them mandated to maintain total control. The concept of ephemeralization is tightly controlled by those in power and is used to further suppress the masses. (frown)

I'm loving the thought processes, I'm loving that many are getting it, I'm loving it this election day of 2008 - let's start the celebration of a new beginning right NOW!!!!! We certainly need it.

That the losers will cry foul, claim some sort of conspiracy, and that the person elected isn't "their" president.

The winners? There won't be any. There are no such thing as good winners or losers any more...just how horrible the other side is.

However, politically I think if one of the candidates can get both Virginia and North Carolina, they stand the best chance because those polls close and will likely be called before at least west coast time, and maybe even mountain.

In other news, Boyda, Moore, Cleaver and Graves will be headed back. This really says something about the incumbent factor...congress has the worst approval rating in who knows how long, yet "my guy/gal" is OK. Ha.

Bob Barr will get more votes than Ralph Nader.

Pres - Obama
Gov - Nixon
Lt. Gov - Kinder
AG - Koster
Tres - Lager
6th - Graves

Light Rail - Yes
Prop A - Yes

Mo:
Nixon
Kinder
Gibbons
Zweifel (sadly)
Carnahan
Mo 6: Graves
Light rail: no
Senior home health: yes
Green energy: yes
English: Yes
Gambling: Yes

Kansas:
I think Moore wins, small margin and Boyda loses

Obama
Nixon
Roberts
Graves
Jenkins(toss up)
Moore
Judges-No
Triangle-Yes
Democrats pick up 7 in the Senate.

obama!
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