Against the wind

you cant really have a serious debate on anything Missouri and political without first checking in from Missouris number 1 nut job Steven Reed. Steve what say you?

Joe Mannix, Detective

Obama is CORRUPT.
1) A houseowner wants to sell both a house and adjoining land. Obama can afford to buy only the house. No problem, the criminal Rezko to the rescue. Rezko pays full price for the land, whereas Obama gets a discount of $300,000 on the house. (ABC News)
2) Exelon Corporation had not disclosed radioactive leaks at one of its nuclear plants. Obama, introduces a bill to make disclosures mandatory. Seems like Exelon doesn't like it. Each draft of the new bill by Obama goes more and more towards Exelon till disclosures end up being "voluntary". What gives? $250,000+ donations by Exelon to Obama's campaigns!!! (New York Times)

Anyone want to refute this from the campaign "that walks on water."

And apparently it is now tainted water -- in more ways than one?

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=a_9sOMpy91Js

"Feb. 18 (Bloomberg) -- The couple who sold Barack Obama his Chicago home said the Illinois senator's $1.65 million bid ``was the best offer'' and they didn't cut their asking price because a campaign donor bought their adjacent land, according to e-mails between Obama's presidential campaign and the seller.

The Illinois senator has said he made a ``boneheaded'' move in involving contributor Antoin ``Tony'' Rezko, a Chicago businessman, in the purchase of the property on June 15, 2005.

Rezko's wife, Rita, also an Obama donor, bought the adjoining plot in Hyde Park from the couple, Fredric Wondisford and Sally Radovick, for the $625,000 asking price, the same day that Obama bought the house for $300,000 less than the asking price. Antoin Rezko was under federal investigation at the time.

Rezko was indicted on unrelated fraud charges 16 months later, in October 2006. Obama has since returned about $85,000 in campaign contributions made or raised by Rezko. Obama's Democratic presidential rival, Hillary Clinton, has questioned Obama's ties with Rezko.

``We still don't have answers about Senator Obama and his dealings with Mr. Rezko,'' Clinton, 60, a New York senator, said in a Feb. 11 interview with the Politico newspaper.

The sellers hadn't previously made their side of the story public out of concern for their privacy, according to Bill Burton, a spokesman for Obama's campaign. They approached Obama's Senate office 15 months ago and agreed to break their silence now through the campaign out of concern that the story was being distorted in the media, Burton said."

Ok here:

According to Obama's spokesman, Bill Burton:

They approached Obama's Senate office 15 months ago and agreed to break their silence now through the campaign out of concern...

...that the story was being distorted in the media, Burton said."

Muted here:

How does Bill Burton feel about distorting that email regarding the National Anthem?

No problem there, eh libs?

He knows it was the National Anthem, but doesn't seem too worried that it is being distorted by a claim that it was the Pledge of Allegiance.

In fact Obama is the one doing the distorting when he knows darn well it was the National Anthem.

PLAGARISM STORY concerning Osama's speeches?

According to the Standards established by the National Anthem Committee, Obama was correct by facing the flag and maintaining a respectful position.
In this circumstance, with a flag present, he was not expected to place his hand over his heart.

That would not be true if they were reciting the Pledge of Allegiance (which the video clearly shows they were not). The required method of showing respect while saying the Pledge is with your hand over your heart if you are in civilian clothing.

Ever see that television show, Are You Smarter than a Fifth Grader?

Fans at the Royals and Chiefs games stand with their hands over their hearts during the singing of our National Anthem.

...but it is not required by the standards.
Chiefs fans are to be proud of their demonstration of patriotism, but it doesn't mean someone is not a loyal American when he/she follows the rules of appropriate behavior.

by drunkenly bellowing "and the HOME OF THE CHIEFS!!!"

That's hardly patriotic behavior.

Anyway, I'm not sure what that had to do with anything noncombatant.

the song ranges an octave and a half.
The words are the least part that gets butchered by the fans...
Just messing with you! (Smile).

on the subject of patriotism that Michelle Obama, speaking of her husband's recent wins, said on video today that "this is the first time" I have been proud of this country. WOW! THAT'S A VERY TELLING STATEMENT. Don't take my word for it, as I know some of you won't, because it's all over the news.

Oooohhh ... Obama borrowed some words and phrases from the Massachusetts Governor, who happened to endorse Obama.

I hardly think Gov. Duval Patrick minds.

If this is the best the Clinton folks and Republicans can come up with, I'd say Obama has been sufficiently "vetted."

Putting your right had over your heart?

"...but it is not required by the standards."

Did Bill Richardson do it?

Did Hillary Clinton do it?

Does President Bush do it?

Did President Clinton do it?

Did every President in the history of it's existence do it?

...then that's the standard for a president.

But for some reason Obama is different. He doesn't have to do it -- because it's not HIS standard.

I wonder just what are Obama's standards?

....easy. Obama follows the rules.
Wow. We might have a President who actually follows the rules.
Wow. A President who might respect the constitution. That's a major change from Bush and the conservatives.
Wow. A President who is inteligent enough to know what is correct rather than what is expedient. Gee, Jeetz...can you find any other ridiculous issues?
He is a man who gives a hoot about America in a profound, honest way. Not the cosmetic baloney that we've experienced under Bush...
But he is a REAL patriot.

proud of this country for the first time. What a family of egomaniacs.

If Obama stands before the U.S. flag during the National Anthem and plays with his thumbs...

...could I call that an image of leadership?

...could I proudly call him the leader of thefree world?

He screwed up big time. The media is simply letting him off the hook.

I am certain, without a doubt, that a Vietnam POW, rescued by patriotic Americans isn't going to let him off the hook.

It won't be a a swift boat situation -- instead a swift kick in the arse and tell him to act like he wants to be the frigging leader of the free world.

...you're now interpreting the ability of a person to be President by divining the meaning of their thumb action?????
Give it up.
This isn't an issue that will keep another 4000 Americans from being killed in Iraq.

...the truth makes people edgy.

Poly Mod said:

Obama follows the rules.

Jeetz:

Famous last words before it is found they are broken

Poly Mod said:

We might have a President who actually follows the rules.

Jeetz:

Really? Kind of assumptive like the 2006 election pledge to end the war in Iraq?

Poly Mod said:

A President who might respect the constitution.

Jeetz:

Will he play with his thumbs then too?

Poly Mod said:

That's a major change from Bush and the conservatives.

Jeetz:

Then I suspect that makes him a liberal.

Poly Mod said:

A President who is intelligent enough to know what is correct rather than what is expedient.

Jeetz:

Based on what -- you got mne there -- assumptive again.

Poly Mod said;

Gee, Jeetz...can you find any other ridiculous issues?

Jeetz:

So the flag is ridiculous? Showing leadership by example is ridiculous?

Poly Mod said:

He is a man who gives a hoot about America in a profound, honest way. Not the cosmetic baloney that we've experienced under Bush...But he is a REAL patriot.

Jeetz:

Gives a hoot, hmmm? As long as you're a liberal he gives a hoot. What can he do for conservative?

Jeetz.
You're sinking below your standards by presenting silly comments.
C'mon, man, at least come over the top with a solid swing versus this sissy patter...jab,,,oh,,,jab,,,ugh...
The problem you have is facts. Every time you try to tear Mr. Obama down you have had to back down.
What's in it for a conservative???

How 'bout caring and asking the far more important question...what's in it for AMERICA?

There's an idea...caring what is best for AMERICA. That's what Obama offers all of us.

what he is offering.

i don't think that electing the most liberal senator to be president would be good for America, so drop the meaningless rhetoric.

...is acting Presidential.

Obama is nothing more than a popular fashion -- a fad.

Like most fads, he too will fizzle out. Liberals better have a marketing plan for transforming their latest fad into a bonafide leader.

Leader or Fad? Right now -- fad.

had a great line on his HBO show tonight.
He said we need to stop remarking how amazing it is that we have a man, a woman and a black man runnig for President.
It isn't amazing, according to Maher, it is two centuries overdue.
We've had 43 white men as President.
We've had one catholic...
We've had one bachelor...

We've had one retarded guy...

Let's not make another mistake. Let's elected Barack Obama.

Is your hatred of Bush messing with your thinking?

Bush is a lameduck President. According to the 22nd Amendment he is gone.

Obama is not in a contest with Bush. It's McCain.

I've noticed libs don't want to compare him to McCain -- instead they want to compare him to Bush -- like you are doing.

Interesting.

Because Bush isn't running for President.

Assuming Bill Maher said this and you are quoting him...

"We've had one retarded guy..."

Jeetz now:

So that "retarded" guy? Liberals have no plans to represent the mentally and physically challenged in America?

See libewrals shoot of their big mouths -- i.e., Bill Maher -- and get away with it because the media gives them a free ride.

I wonder if Don Imus said that -- would he have gotten a free ride?

Clinton aides accused Obama of breaking his pledge to accept public financing in place of private donations during the general election. Obama's aides say he did not make a firm commitment to accept public financing if he wins the nomination.

Yesterday, key Clinton supporters accused Obama of "lifting" a passage of the rousing speech he delivered to a party gathering in Milwaukee on Saturday night from Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, a longtime friend and supporter. The two passages, captured on side-by-side YouTube videos and distributed to reporters by the Clinton campaign, show Obama repeating, almost verbatim, lines from a speech Patrick gave two years earlier.

"The point we're making overall is that Senator Obama's record as a senator and as a public official is thin," said Howard Wolfson, a senior Clinton adviser. "If you're asking an electorate to judge you on your promises and you break them, and on your rhetoric and you lift it, there are fundamental problems with your campaign."

a true plagiarizer

I just lifted my above comment from the Washington Post. I am sure Midtown Mary and his s.o. Poly M. will trash me for it while at the same time making excuses for Obama. Like Obama said, plagiarism is no big deal, right?

that the plagiarism made me sound a lot smarter and a lot more eloquent than I actually am. OH, GEE, THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT. THAT IS WHY IT MATTERS!

Uh, bootenany? You're talking to yourself again.

you are wrong again.
The comparison we make is directed squarely at John McCain. It is the senator from Arizona who has shifted to align directly in the footsteps of George Bush.
A vote for John Mccain assures us a continuation of the failings of George Bush.
So my references to Bush are used to demonstrate what we will get if John McCain gets your vote.
I think it is important for America to understand the relationship and impact of supporting him.

I am, however, puzzled that you do not support the conservative (as defined by the icon Ronald Reagan) economic plan of Obama? It is more traditionally conservative than anything McCain offers.

If you say that Mc Cain has offered anything beyond superficiality.

So? We're talking about political parties and organizations. They're entitled to pick their candidate in any manner they choose. In fact, you don't need a party to run for office..just file the paperwork and pay the fees.

If SuperDelegates save us from another (fill in the blank) or (fill in the blank) as presidential nominee or president, more power to them!

The loser in the Democratic race for the nomination can always do a Lieberman.